2010 crossfit games final workouts
At the beginning of WOD 6c every single one of those athletes had done different amounts of work over the last 14 minutes. And that was not reflected in the scores in any way. He is humble and takes his role as one of the faces of CrossFit seriously. And your right 73, he is the fittest CrossFitter. Outstanding, all of them, and particularly those in the Final 16 groupings. Some truly epic performances were delivered. I was duly amazed and inspired. Surprisingly good.
Like many others, I was glued to my computer the entire weekend. Had the production been of lesser quality, I suspect my interest would have eventually waned. Well done. To have provided some level of protection in the event of a fall -- one that could very easily have resulted in serious injury, or worse -- would have in no way made the rope climb any easier, or any less of a test of strength which is the whole point, is it not?
But climbing up a 20 foot rope multiple times whilst completely knackered with nothing but a hard rubber mat to break your fall? I think the scoring system is pretty fair. The way where I can see improving it would be to start from scratch on Sunday when you have your Top What a race to the finish that would be!
What I am saying is that CrossFit by definition includes Cardiovascular endurance in their 10 physical skills test. So why not have an event dedicated to that. Isn't this the point of the games to test who is the best well rounded athlete at all aspects of Fitness?
Not to mention the only 1 rep max they did was after a much tougher "Helen". Sam No I don't believe that we should just turn in stat sheets. But looking at those, if there was a test of Cardiovascular endurance, which I remind you again that is a component of CrossFit, how many of those top 5 guys would drop out of the top 5, or even 10?
Look at how many bodyweight exercises were used in the last 3 metcons. The WOD's weren't well rounded at all they favored a lighter guy as you can tell the CrossFit strongmen, Orlando and Khalipa ended up taking the last two spots of the final competitors due to the fact there was only one test of pure strength, after a METCON that is. If half the people don't complain and "leave" then it aint CrossFit.
Whiners leave, winners stay. That's why I love CrossFit, cause most just can't hang. Those of us who love CrossFIt, love it because it is so raw and so bad ass. Speaking of which - CrossFit Games set the world record for most nice asses in one place!
One more thing. Dave very approachable and warm. Even though he was running the Games he stopped and gave me the time of day and a quick photo. When is the remainder of the last event going to be available for viewing? It currently ends half way through the women's second heat. I had to work so I missed it live. Is there room for improvement? Sure, but nothing in this world is perfect.
As Pat always says, "Is it better, worse, or the same? My hats off to everyone that made it happen. I would have liked a true 1RM max event and possibly a 50 or m sprint, but overall the programming was good. As someone above said, it would only take one person to fall from 20 feet and break their neck to ruin the CF Games.
Kristen won the first workout by almost 2 minutes, but only gets one more point than second place? That doesn't seem right.
Same thing with DJ in 2b and Speal in 6c. I was cheering for Mikko all the way but damn, those double unders cost him. Definitely knowable. Never done pistols? Never climbed a rope? Those are not sledgehammers, they're regular exercises, no excuses.
And for point 2: What we might have seen for the first time in the games was a glimpse of virtuosity in the adaptation needed for all those wallclimbs and the fantastic sandbag-transporting. It's about moving well and efficiently in general, not just lifting or pushing or pulling. It is amazing to think back to when I first became involved in the CrossFit program I saw Jason knock out the clean and jerks at the end of and say that though the event was small compared to today, I wished I could be a part of it.
I am very proud and excited to see the growth of CrossFit. I thought the Games were well organized and well run. On the games themselves I thought that the theme of "unkown and unknowable," was well proved. The general physical preparedness why many armed forces and law inforecement adopt the program was exhibited well. All of the movements were functional and performed at a high entensity. There was a variety of movements.
The workout tested broad time and modal domains including the three test of endurance. Nice job from everyone involved. The community should take pride in the growth of the Sport of Fitness! The 10 general physical skills. Is one of these skills more important than the other? Better yet, which skill on this list would you live the rest of your life without?
All this talk about pure test of strength not being included is risible! There was no PURE test of any of these skills. The WODs were combinations of all of these skills. That's what makes this Crossfit. Specializing in NOT specializing. The pistols weren't a pure test of balance because the athletes did deadlifts and double-unders in combination with them. How come no one is complaining about that?
I surmise that many Crossfitters are biased in strength because for some reason, they believe that strength is a more important physical skill. Crossfit's definition of fitness is markedly different.
There always has to be one meathead in the group. No one is saying they want to leave crossfit here Frank. That last event needed a tiger or lion to come out of the wings and chase these guys up the rope to be complete because it looked like a possible end to their day. That style of workout is executed behind closed doors because the public has no business viewing a training evolution that literally weeds out those who have the balls to jump on a grenade from those who don't.
They should have just thrown a hundred pound pack on their backs and a weapon in their hands prior to coming out. Congrats to all the competitors and organizers this weekend and leading up to it!
It was an inspiring performance. Personally, other than the big oversight of not having safety mats on the last event, I thought the organization and programming were top notch. Maybe next year they can go back to having a bigger 1RM or 3RM strength component, but in the name of "constantly varied and preparing for the unknown", I really liked this year's events. Congrats Graham! I think had there been more 'pure strength' stuff like people are clamoring for he would have surprised a lot of people as well.
I think many people were surprised that he pushed after the Hellacious Helen. Regarding his and Spealer's running, I KNOW they were very clear that their running cost them last year, and they worked on it. Graham is one of my instructors at Rogue and he worked on it. He was probably bummed that he didn't get the chance to test his improvement! The events were what they were and they were the same for everyone.
People who were shorter had a disadvantage in some areas and vice versa. Froning was a big guy and was right there until the rope climbs. Climbing a rope in Crossfit is a basic skill and he couldn't get it done. I know Graham can climb the rope with no legs too, but he also has a good foothold and it served him well.
Mikko sucking on the double unders? That is another basic skill in crossfit. I agree about the safety issue. When I saw some of those girls go up there in the first heat I got very concerned at their level of fatigue and the potential disasterous outcome.
The announcers need to be better educated on the athletes and there should be more scoreboard type graphics keeping viewers better informed. Oh, and most inspiring moment? Kristan Clever, at lbs putting lb OH! That tied or beat 9 of the men! All the athletes are extraordinary, but Kristan I think is probably the most well-rounded athlete the Games have seen yet.
Other than the wheelbarrow mishap, she finished 1 or 2 in every event. Loved watching Kristan, Annie, Valerie, Jessica, and the rest of the women kick ass! I hope this will inspire lots of strong women to get stronger. Women doing crossfit seriously will get fitter in whatever way their particular body adapts to highly varied, extreme physical stress.
For most women, that means they will get significantly more muscular as they get stronger, and for some women who have the luck of great genetics, they will get a LOT more muscular as they become more serious crossfitters.
I always skip over the gyms spouting"you won't get muscular" nonsense because I know they tend NOT to be the best affiliate in town. Far from it. Anyway, off my soapbox Sportsmanship and athleticism like nothing else on earth!
Right on Sam, I couldn't agree more. Crossfit is not all about strength. I thought the programing was good also. They did a good job of mixing in most all those skills in every workout. I especially liked the max overhead lift after the super Helen. If you can not get close to your one rep max after that, well then your not that fit.
Too many here are to concerned about 1RM. Crossfit is not about the strongest, or the fastest but the all around athlete. Crossfit Competitor. Well said. There is a difference between extreme fitness and hazing. The rope climb without any safety stuff was not cool. Hope those that burned in are ok.
A 20' fall is no joke. Like Sharon, 91, I also missed the finals due to work. I will repeat her request as I have been reading other bloggers mention this as well. It is not fair to tell us on the website that all "30 hours" are going to shown and then not show it. At least they should have advertised that only the 1st heat of the finals will be shown and well, as to the last heats of the individual finals - if you missed it -- too bad! Magnificent performance by the athletes, judges, commentators and CFHQ staff.
Plenty of footage to learn more from about performance, sportsman women ship, and Crossfit programming. I agree with many on at least providing more mats under the ropes for athletes safety on the final WOD. But, i also understand what an awesome job CFHQ did under the circumstances-lack of sleep, high heat, high stress, etc. This was oversight, most likely, and was not enough of a safety issue to remove the event entirely. The most inspiring moment for me was watching the Masters competitor, Joel Nessa, pull 's over his previous PR.
It proves nothing on who is the fittest person. There are thousands and thousands of people who can deadlift more than spealler just because they weigh more than him, but that in no way means they are fitter than him.
Congrats to the athletes who competed and gave it their all out there. Especially the winners and top athletes, you were so impressive to watch. The event was very well run, and the programming was challenging and fun to watch. In my opinion it captured the true essence of crossfit and the crossfit balance of skills.
Can anyone shed some light on how the final three events 6a, 6b, 6c were scored? I thought it was being scored as total reps completed if you didn't complete the workout.
But, on the scoring page it lists scores way above the rep number for those who didn't complete the workout. Not a big deal, just curious. Be prepared What kind of discussion we would have then? I do agree that the rope climb needed more safety though--pads and spotters seem like common sense actually. I also think that event 6c should have gone first so that the athletes wouldn't be doing the more risky event while exhausted. This is part of the reasoning behind the order swim-bike-run in triathlon.
I also agree that water needed to be readily available to the athletes and providing towels to insulate them against the hot ground would've have been appropriate. If you aren't going to give them info to prepare very cool idea BTW then you need to provide them with some basic supplies. The CF community is in between sizes right now; too big for games like , and too small for division by weight classes.
As far as best pound-for-pound, that really doesn't matter, the world is not scaled for anyone person which is why you shouldn't scale for females either. I believe that HQ has a separate class for females so that CF doesn't become a male-only sport; if they don't end up using weight classes, they will eventually exclude people of smaller stature. I agree that safety was an afterthought. But hey, they'll learn from their mistakes. That is one thing that is really good about CF, it has the ability to evolve and get better.
I liked a lot of the events and how they divided up the final so that nobody was stuck on one movement for 20 minutes while everyone else finished the chipper. Incredible event! The event and coverage far exceeded my expectations. Congrats to event organizers and athletes! I'm sure every athlete is so appreciative of how vehement "the community" is to protect their well-being; it definitely isn't the only way some of these people will ever get featured on Crossfit.
This community needs to get a grip. Crossfit is Greg Glassman's. He can make event 1 a chess competition. You don't like it, become an entrepreneur and start your own assumed million-dollar corporation. Second, there have been no repeat champions in the history of the Games and by the time two years have passed since the Champion's competition year, they are not even in the top 5.
So if anyone can win the Games, why not just keep trying? Eventually, Coach will have a Crossfit Games that, by chance, highlights and excentuates all of your strengths and none of your weaknesses. Too many enthusiasts are emerging with their various means of attaining attention: Big freaking vehicles with Crossfit all over it, the inability to wear clothes within 50 yards of a gym coupled with a profound love for the world of body art, stellar arguments on every possible subject that could be debated, yet they all share a common item of embarassment: unable to compete in the Games.
You find me 10 people, from Men's, Women's, or Master's categories who are complaining about programming and how fearful they were for their lives and about the heat and I will print out this comment and eat it.
E-mail if you would like to comment. The first two events of the 09 games were genius because it coupled the opposite broad ends of the spectrum together.
Let's just say you were limited to choose two exercises or tasks to find the fittest athlete out of a given group. What would they be? CrossFit also teaches to perform any task imaginable so in no way shape or form am I taking away from the programming. I'm just trying to put reason with their comments. Crossfit teaches that the solely marathon runner isn't fit because he is not strong and the solely powerlifter is not fit because he is slow and has no endurance.
How many guys do you know who can run a 5K in averaging under a 6 minute mile Deadlift lbs and do 67 non butterfly pullups? I only know of one His name is Mikko. Kristan had to get those sandbags over the same wall as Laura Demarco and Lindsey Smith, both of them nearly a foot taller than her.
Agree about having faith that crossfit is always evolving and learning from whatever just happened, including safety issues. But isn't it necessary to test strength and speed to decide who is the best "all around athlete"? I think that Spealler was fed up with the events from previous years and gave Castro a hefty amount of cash before the events were determined. Ok, I just simply cannot resist throwing in my 2 cents on this mild chat about not having mats under the ropes. People have voiced their opinions, I respect each person's point of view, so I will give mine.
Now, allow me to say why I feel that way. Some one previously commented that a squat snatch with lbs is inherently dangerous. There are 1,, different things in the "gym" and in real life that are potentially dangerous.
What is a large factor in whether some "potentially" dangerous environments or tasks become truly dangerous is the decisions the individual makes. I was in a pretty bad motorcycle accident on a cc sport bike. It was my fault. I rode at a speed that exceeded my abilities and it cost a trip to the hospital. Was the motorcycle dangerous or was my decision to keep twisting the throttle beyond my experience level the dangerous part? I think it was my fault. I have tweaked my back before lifting a really heavy dead lift when I was already very fatigued.
I should have rested more so I could have kept my technique better. I chose to rush back to the barbell. Are heavy dead lifts dangerous or was my decision to rest less than necessary dangerous? I think it was my fault, not the barbell's fault. I have climbed hundreds and hundreds of ropes back in my military days.
I have fallen off tons of ropes, 20'. It hurts. I realize that. We had some athletes fall off the ropes this year at the Games and some did not.
Was it the ropes fault? Every athlete had to make a personal decision about their current level of fatigue. If they were so tired that climbing the rope became dangerous for them, then REST, don't climb it. Other athletes will pass you while you rest, but the choice is yours alone. If you want to roll the dice, then that is your call. Adults make their own decisions.
This required thinking and strategy. I don't blame the dead lift for hurting my back, I don't blame the motorcycle or the engineer that created such a powerful engine for putting me in the hospital, and I don't blame all the ropes that I have peeled off of in my life for all my falls back to mother earth.
No analogies are perfect, so I'm sure many people will think they don't apply to the last event at the Games, but I hope you guys get my point. Will there be mats under the ropes next time? Perhaps, and I'm cool with it if there are. I just don't think it was crazy as some of the comments have portrayed. I'm currently sitting at breakfast with Matt Chan, who participated in the final men's heat.
He informed me of his simple, yet effective strategy Like I said before, I respect everyone's opinion that expressed a desire that mats should have been provided. The internet can be a harsh place, let's see if my perspective is warmly received Some athletes in the affiliate competition dumping the barbells on their backs risked serious injury, should the programmers have disallowed behind the neck jerks as a result?
I guess we shouldn't ever do max snatches because of the potential risk of injury. Does the probability to make the wrong decisions increase while fatigued in a competitive situation? What do you think? If you really wanted to stir things up, you should have said what you were eating and drinking maybe a Diet Coke for breakfast.
I believe in mitigating risk when you can. Of course there is risk in anything we do. Dying in a car accident is a risk most of us take, however we all have the choice of utilizing a seat-belt, which may or may not increase or chance of survival based on a million variables. However using a seat-belt does not make driving any more dangerous. Same can be said about many safety measures taken in much of what we do including sports. Would have placing a mat beneath the ropes made the climb any more dangerous?
Would it have changed the task at hand? HQ did a great job everything was well ran and did everything they could and busted their butt to make everything run as smooth as possible. I have to agree with Everything in life is a choice. But more importantly, the athletes that tackled the final wods on Sunday are well trained and know their own capabilities and limits.
Had it been a bunch of untrained CF athletes being asked to climb a 20ft rope, no mats would be an issue I do see the point in Pat Sherwood's analogies. As athletes, we make decisions. Some good. Some bad. Keep in mind these athletes were competing for top spots and a healthy check. The pure adrenaline and drive may or may not affect someone's ability to make the best decision. Injury can occur anytime, anywhere, but a 20 ft.
While hindsight, a mat would have been a very simple solution. This whole debate about who is fittest determined by choices of WOD's was decided.
Congrats Graham and Kristan!!!!! Because everyone has a different idea about what is "fit", there is all this argument. Any given set of WOD's may result in different outcomes. The argument is just silly. On these given days, the results spoke. Great experience this weekend with the exception of the HEAT and no "in and out" parking!!! Sure it's a personal choice to climb up the rope or not - but that's not the point.
The last event was a disaster waiting to happen, and nobody is interested in that. To everyone who had anything to do with the games this year: Thanks a ton!!! I was behind the scenes more than I wanted to be trying to keep our little one out of the sun.
Everyone I met went above and beyond over the weekend! Thanks so much for your time and sleepless nights! CF is big on trying to be badasses and not taking safety precautions. I have a much higher risk tolerance than most people, and to some extent I can appreciate the idea that you just have to man up.
But, you have to be reasonable with some of this safety stuff. Yes, I do think you should get rid of 20ft rope climbs at the very end of the competition when there's probably a 1 in 20 chance that someone gets critically injured.
At some point, a legit competitor that we all like is going to accept a high degree of risk and he's going to end up getting injured or killed. I'm very libertarian about accepting risk and all that, but that doesn't change the fact that the laws especially of California are not created by libertarians I find myself a bit troubled by Pat Sherwood's comments aside: I thought his commentary was good during the webcast.
These comments seem to imply that there was before-the-fact-debate about safety measures on the rope climb and the conclusion was that safety measures were unnecessary. I understand his argument, I just disagree with it. I don't think we can trust competitors to make reasonable, rational decisions under those circumstances. I could barely watch the rope climb as it was so dangerous; it was just plain sickening.
Overall a great competition. I loved the Friday workout. I thought the pyramid Hell-en was interesting but a bit over the top. However, I loved testing a strength movement immediately after. I think I would have liked to see some sort or run in the place of one of the last Metcons.
A couple of run suggestions: a a 1 mile timed run with a weighted vest. Maybe a weighted vest would even the playing field for bigger competitors? How fun would it have been to have them line up on the goal line in the grass at the track and then run suicides to every 10 yards all the way out and back i. Finally, a lot of people seem down on Castro. I didn't think he was fantastic, but I didn't see him as being negative or unprofessional.
Pat Sherwood was it ok to not have any saftey measures for the athletes hands when the temp was on the ground for the final event? Stephen : sorry bro, we must have thought that the blog was for posting comments. I did not realize that qualifying for the Games was a prerequisite to having an opinion and using the comments section to post them. Sherwood : disagree but respect the tenor and intent of your post. No one blames the ropes, just think HQ should provide some safety equipment.
It is inevitable that there will be crashes when exhausted people climb ropes at the end of 9 WODs. Watching the constant slow motion replays shown on the live coverage of RF getting whiplash and taking out the chalk bucket was enough to drive the point home for me.
You can ask people to do risky things and they can assume that risk, but it is a different issue from whether you should mitigate known risk with basic precautions - particularly when it does not diminish from the task. That is why people wear helmets when racing a motorcycle or a seat belt while in a car. Overall, great event, great web coverage, great athletes. A few tweaks makes it better and safer. I look forward to future competitions.
The Games are an evolving process, and it is great to see how they have evolved these past four years. There are lessons to learn every year, and they get incorporated into the next year; that's why this year's Games were as phenominal as they were. I'm sure HQ became acutely aware of some of the safety concerns voiced here probably around the same time everyone else did, so give them a break: they weren't trying to hurt people. By the same token, an athlete also needs to make decisions about whether to perform a movement.
I believe there's an abiding rule in Crossfit concerning all movements and all WODs: do your best, but if you can't do it safely, don't do it. Most of the competitors are also trainers, so they likely have a solid grasp of that principle. The points have been made. But hey: I'm not seeing any criticism of the judging this year, and that's awesome. The judges did an exceptional job, and big big congrats to Adrian for expertly wrangling that awesome crew.
I thought the coverage was incredible. I think CF made the jump from a "get together in the country" to a "world class sporting event" extremely well. When you grow, you spot weaknesses - but you also get better. And that is what happened this weekend. And I have no doubt CF will get better.
I personally can't wait for next year and I want to thank everyone who was involved with this year. Including Castro who I thought did great. I completely agree with Pat and I was hoping that someone would say it before me, but since it hasn't been brought up yet, here goes:.
We train for real life scenarios! CrossFit is functional fitness. We train to be able to pull yourself out of a burning building or lift a car off of somebody Rob Orlando. If you were climbing a rope into a helicopter from a burning building extreme I know would life say, "Hey there little buddy, here's a crash pad in case you fall, so you don't land on your bottom.
I'm sure the first time someone tried to slam dunk a basketball there were people that said it was "too dangerous" or that someone might break their ankle or die. And really, it's only a 20' rope. A fall from that height would be scary, but that's about it. There were a couple people that fell from pretty high up, and they were right back up trying to do it again. A huuugggeeeeeeeeeeeee Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have helped run several events and knowing the work you guys put in is amazing! Thank you very very much for all that you do. I am sure I speak for many other's when I say that I truly appreciate the work you guys put in. The Crossfit Games would not be possible without all of the help that is provided. Congratulations to Graham and Kristan for your amazing work this weekend.
The Games were awesome, can't wait for next year. I think everyone's point about the mats is that, if given the choice, why wouldn't you take every precuation to ensure the athletes' safety? And even if the athletes arguably assumed the risk of climbing the ropes, it wouldn't have absolved CF from reckless conduct.
Just out of sheer curiosity, if one of the ropes had god forbid come unknotted or unhooked from the scaffolding, would you have said that the athletes assumed the risk of injury from that as well? An injury occurring from that fall could just as easily have been mitigated by a mat. As a side note, I can't believe that any attorney advising the CF team would NOT have insisted on the mats if only to decrease the liability on CF's part that may have resulted from an injury occurring from a fall.
Whatever waivers you had those athletes sign would not have protected you from any negligence on your part Michele, guess you never heard of "assumption of risk" and "contributory negligence". Crossfit yields the fittest human beings on the face of the earth, hands down the best fitness program there is not only for this competition but for life as well. These games displayed a massive amount of work being done by phenomenal athletes.
Being as fatigued as they were and still being able to make it up that rope over and over again was amazing to watch. They just endure. Crossfit's idea of fitness isn't being good at just one thing but solid in just about everything.
These games really showed what it's all about and the athletes ability to adapt to change quickly. The training pretty much prepares you for anything that might come up.
Although the rope is mostly technique with some upper body strength and if no technique then a heck of a lot of upper body strength. Rock on! Crossfit rules! Oh and I don't necessarily think Crossfit tries to be badass, I think they try to be realistic and no mat under the 20 foot rope was realistic. I am far from an elite athlete but I am sure these athletes know their bodies and whether or not they can make it up that rope.
It involves some strategy just like Pat said. When I do a WOD that involves rope climbing I do the best I can and sometimes I just cannot get up that rope on a given round so I go as high as I can, rest, regain composure and try it again. These athletes had to make decisions while enduring pain and this in my opinion is one of the main themes behind crossfit, high intensity but still able to think whether it be technique or some kind of strategy to get through the WOD.
All part of the well rounded athlete. Thanks crossfit! Outstanding performance to all competitors! You all continue to motivate and inspire by your endless dedication and commitment. Thank you all and thank you CrossFit. I love reading the blogs and all the crazy arguments. Makes me wiser while I sit quietly and collect it all. Entertaining to say the least. What if the ferris wheel at the carnival broke and rolled over a school bus and crashed into a puppy pampering school?
It's not like gymnasts perform their ring, balance beam, or uneven bar routines above blacktops. I'm pretty sure they have mats below them. The military uses loose sand or pits of shredded tire mulch under rope climbs because, inevitably, someone will take a dive from high up, and it makes sense to minimize the risks of broken ankles and concussions. Everyone has a point but it depends on how you view this. I think we can all agree that crossfit isn't just about the physical aspect but also mental toughness to think in an intense situation.
How much rest do they take, what kind of technique do I use sine i have not practiced this much back home at the gym, how fast is the guy over there doing it and what round is he on, can I make it up half way and then go the rest of the way on sheer adrenaline.
I guess there's a lot to think about but these thoughts are probably lightning fast and a mile a minute through their heads. Nobody can legitimately argue that mats would not be more safe because it obviously would be. The argument for the most part is what does having mats underneath the ropes do to the outcome. Would you have more guys climbing up and trying one more that they normally wouldn't have tried because they don't have the healthy FEAR of not having the mat down below?
Fear being the key word, healthy no kidding fear of what happens if you let go and fall from high up. I think no mats make it more intense and more realistic in relation to a real life situation that calls for someone to kind of take the fear and utilize it in a positive way.
If the athletes felt unsafe they will say so and the crossfit HQ will make the changes for next year. I liked the no mats but I wasn't the one climbing out there. Athletes, judges, medics, volunteers, media, support staff, fans, Thank you all for your time, commitment, and enthusiasm.
Like so many have said, this weekend would not have been so enjoyable without every single one of you. The magnitude of the event still has left me a little awestruck. I first started Crossfit out of curiosity and stay because of the community. The Games are a resounding example of our awesome community.
It was people helping people in order to provide a stage to represent an amazing fitness program that has continually changed my life for the better. I wouldn't ask for more. Congratulations to all the top athletes and teams--you guys rock. I can't wait to see what next year will bring. Congratulations to Annie, she did demonstrate her dominance in "work capacity across broad time and modal domains". My remarks are directed to the organizers - if there is going to be a time cap then I think there should be a penalty for DNF, otherwise don't have the time cap.
To the safety issues: I agree there should some accommodations, mats under the rope climbs and water available during the last WOD would have been advisable. I also question the length of time the athletes were sequestered away. Did they have water and food available? The last heat waited almost 3 hours. To the food question, to plan to eat at the right time pre-workout the athletes would have needed to be told what time they would be competing.
I'm a practicing attorney, and so, yes, I've heard of assumption of risk. Assumption of risk, would be a complete bar to recovery.
However, MOST states don't operate as strict assumption of risk states. In fact, most states have transitioned to a form of comparative negligence whereby the total amount of fault is apportioned between the actors. I'm not in CA, so I don't purport to know the nuances of California tort law. As I said before, I don't think the argument about whether the athletes assumed the risk is the crux of the issue for most people on this board. It's about recognizing that even if we expect these phenmoneal athletes to do the extraordinary and climb those ropes safely and without injury in degree weather after two days of greuling competition , we should still take measures to protect them from those "what ifs"--especially if those measures don't damage the integrity of the workout.
They are a comparative negligence state. I'm guessing you're not since you brought up contributory negligence when only 5? The Assumption of Risk argument is one that CF would need to make, as it's their best defense, but it would almost certainly lose Point being that even if they want to take on this badass kind of attitude, it's pretty stupid since financially it's a horrible business decision and it's going to end up hurting the CF Games in the long run.
When I encourage people from various sports to give some variation of CrossFit a shot, I want to be able to point to the CrossFit Games and show them how solid the competitors are, and how cool the competition is. And, I'd like to have athletes from various disciplines try it to see how they do. I think most of the other commentators have a similar feeling on this. People still comment on them. They want to push the sport in a better direction. The same goes for CF. I competed in the Regional Masters and just love the Crossfit Nation.
I took my son and he really liked it. The programming was quite good, IMO, it takes a superior athlete to even get to the Games, let alone be in the top I thought it could've been run a bit more crisply in terms of event start times but it didn't detract too much.
Can't get over how awesome the Top 20 are; just would blow away pro athletes in any sport in terms of overall fitness OK, I have a different slant on the Ropes.
We were sitting a couple rows up from there and were very close. I actually get what Pat S was saying.. I don't know, I was really affected by it. At the peak of exhaustion, and the athletes desperately wanting to win, mentally tough enough to "try when they shouldn't try" And, if I may say so, I just think CF, in a very gutteral sense, may think that mats and padding is a bit pussified , if you will, and frankly, I agree with them. Great show this weekend! The free HD Streaming was awesome and kept me watching all weekend!
Thanks to everyone for making this possible! Regarding the rope safety issue, I have never seen a crash mat under a rope climb at any Crossfit venue. My personal experience is that folks who cannot climb rope very well do not need a crash pad because they are afraid of falling and will not climb and higher than they are able to.
I think often times, the fear of falling keeps beginner rope climbers from exceeding their capabilities. A rope climb is a pretty simple deal. Climb the rope to the desired heigth without letting go. I understand the concern for safety precautions but I think overall Crossfitters accept the inherent risk of climbing rope.
Those who do not accept the risk should not climb a rope. Certainly any competitor knew of should have known a rope climb was possible or likely. These were in fact the 16 most fit men and women on the planet. We all observed that some competitors were more prepared than others and the competitors that were less prepared spent alot of time looking at the rope or shaking their hands out.
Yes, there were some terrible falls but I bet if you ask the competitors who fell, they would tell you that they voluntarily climber the rope, assumed all risk and liability and will now prepare themselves better for future rope climb events. Extreme sports generally carry some risk with them. Skydivers, Mountain Climbers, Stock Car racers, motorcycle riders and passenger car operators and passengers all assume much greater risks that the 20 ft.
Do you folks complaining about the rope climb safety issue actually use a crash mat when you climb rope? Doesn't it get in the way of the rope climbing?
Do you perform Oly lifts inside squat racks? Do you wear a helmet on your commute to work? I think a Wilbur Wright quote is in order I know what comparative negligence does. I'm not going to get into a "who knows the law better" esp. Obviously Assumption of Risk is the argument they'd make, but there are plenty of situations where plaintiffs assume some degree of risk, but negligence is not excused. I won't keep talking about this because it's not really the right place for it.
Just want to say thanks for the awesome Live Feed and archives of the events. I would have missed alot of it had it not been for the archives. This is judge Judy, you have two ears and one mouth. Shut the mouth and open your ears. Guys, really? You guys are doing this for real? Lawyers Suck. However, CrossFit lawyers suck a little less than most.
You guys are all smart. Smart and able to work hard for what you want, like being an attorney, but you are all also very silly. Silly because you all feel the need to justify and prove yourselves over a law issue. Ike Clanton said it best: Law don't go around here Law Dog! Just keep thinking that we are laughing with you and not at you and everything will be fine from here on out.
The whole "macho" attitude that safety is for sissies and that in real life you won't have crash pads under your climbing rope is unreasonable. You don't have medical staff standing at ready 15 ft away either in real life, but to not have them around would be a disaster waiting to happen.
On another note, does anyone know if a proper infectious disease protocol was being used to disinfect the equipment between use? It seems like all it would take would be someone with ripped, bleeding hands and a blood borne pathogen such as hepatitis B to be running around out there contaminating the equipment. HQ- You have made warriors out of men, and showed boys what it means to be men.
People around the world now know that strength and beauty can exist simultaneously, as evident by the women of CrossFit. Being "fit" is increasingly more popular because of your efforts, and you have made fitness a sport that can inspire anyone to better themselves.
I was at the CrossFit Games this year and I have to say I'm a little confused with people "walking away in disgust" during the final rope climb event. When the 12 minute time cap was completed for the final workout everyone in the stadium was on their feet applauding and cheering for the hard work of all the competitors Just wanted to thank everyone that helped out this weekend, judges, volunteers, medics, media and the entire Crossfit community. The weekend was truly an amazing event. Congrats to Graham and Kristan, you guys rock.
It was an honor to compete with all of the athletes this weekend, can't wait for next year. Jim, Rest assured my infectious pathogen disease protocol concerned friend.
Bleach was used on the bars between use. Everyone of you with your concerns and your ideas, I would like to bring you up to speed. CrossFit asks for volunteers to help with the games. There is a link that you can use to sign up. You can commit to helping out then and there in the arena or supporting the goings on of the games.
All of you with your epiphanies, your insight, your sharp shooting and arm chair critiques can sign up to support your community. You can voice your concerns there and then in person, loud and proud, Instead of sitting comfortably behind your computer, in the safety of being anonymous on the Internet.
We have done so much for so long, with so little that we can do anything with nothing. Never above you, never below you, always beside you. Valarie led event 6b the entire time, Clever and Annie were chasing her and it when it came down to the end Valarie and Clever tied for 1st.
I'd say Valarie was more than very close. It's about time some people start giving Valarie some well deserved credit, she was absolutely amazing! Eric - So well put, that there really is nothing to add. All the arguments of "manning up" are just stupid when you take into account what could've but thankfully didn't happen.
Just wanted to clear something up about my comment on weight classes. I didn't actually mean to publish that, I thought I had erased it because as I was writing it I realized a weight class would be ridiculous. I do however think percentage of bodyweight to determine weights would be a great idea because it keeps things more relative. All this about oh well Khalipa is bigger so it's harder All bodyweight exercises are equal because they are relative to your body and they are the same percentage for everybody.
If the external loads were weighted this way it would be, in my opinion, a fairer test of strength because it keeps things relative, and therefore everyone equal. What a lot of people don't seem to grasp is that guys like Speal can only get so big and guys like Khalipa will never be small, but putting them on a more realtive scale could be a better test, or even just an alternative. Also this is simply my 2 cents and is not meant as a criticism to any of the people who were involved in the games this year.
As far as entertainment, I believe this was the most entertaining games ever. I was glued to my seat the whole weekend and was a little sad when it was over because there really is something special about watching these athletes perform incredible tasks. It is so inspiring and really gives me hope for the world when I see people who are fit, healthy, and posess ridiculous amounts of drive, determination, and spirit. These people know what it means to work for something and I believe that is one of the biggest assets in life.
I personally was enthralled by the programming this year and thought the weightlifting, metcon, and gymnastics was well balanced. I also thought having the athletes do real world tasks like the sandbag move, and obstacle course was the best test of fitness yet, because it really did show how well CrossFit translates over to real life.
Jerry, my crossfit affiliate has mats under the ropes. Gymnastics places too have mats underneath the ropes. Rock climbing places too have mats underneath bouldering walls. Pretty much anything you have to go up free have mats underneath. Hey, even people who go bouldering outdoor bring mats with them. For more information on how to sponsor the CrossFit Games, see the sponsorship page. Promote the CrossFit Games on your website. To display our badge, just copy and paste this code into your site's source code:.
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